Date : 3/30/2023 4:52:05 PM
From : "Rose Woolhouse"
To : "Dunietz, Jesse"
Cc : "Cedric Yehuda Sabbah" , "[email protected]" , "[email protected]" , "Harris, Kenneth (Dept of Justice)" , "[email protected]" , "[email protected]" , "[email protected]" , "[email protected]" , "Amory, Elizabeth R" , "[email protected]" , "[email protected]" , "[email protected]" , "[email protected]" , "[email protected]" , "[email protected]" , "Ziv Katzir" , "שירי גלר בר" , "McKenzie, Kathryn (OPCL)" , "Harris, Kenneth J (USEU)"
Subject : Re: Proposed Meeting in Advance of the CAI Plenary

Thanks all!  I am just waiting for a few meetings to be confirmed on 11 April, so will let you know on Monday.

Best wishes,
Rose


On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 03:44, Dunietz, Jesse <[email protected]> wrote:
[Adding Kate McKenzie]

I'll echo everything Cedric and Mike said about the paper and meeting.

For the next meeting, would 8am ET on April 11th adequately account for all the time constraints that have been noted?

--Jesse
From: Cedric Yehuda Sabbah <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 1:43 PM
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Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Harris, Kenneth (Dept of Justice) <[email protected]>; Dunietz, Jesse <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; Amory, Elizabeth R <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; 'Ziv Katzir' <[email protected]>; 'שירי גלר בר' <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Proposed Meeting in Advance of the CAI Plenary
 

Thanks Rose! Looks really interesting. I look forward to reading it. It was actually circulated among AI experts here in Israel, they are taking note!

Would be happy to join a coordination meeting – if possible, outside the following dates (Passover+Fridays): April 5-7, 12-14. I've added Ziv and Shiri to the cc.

Best,

Cedric

 

 

Hi Rose,

 

Thanks for sharing and congrats. I am sure there will be interest in the UK’s white paper on our side.

 

On CAI: we are interested in additional coordination meetings ahead of the next session. We are on holiday April 7 and 10, but otherwise should be able to find time over the next two weeks.

 

Thanks,

 

mz



On Mar 29, 2023, at 12:02 PM, Rose Woolhouse <[email protected]> wrote:



Dear all,

 

We are delighted to announce that the UK's AI regulation white paper has been published today, with a consultation open until 21 June 2023.  This paper builds on stakeholder feedback from our original policy paper - and includes new proposals for regulatory coordination, monitoring and evaluation, international interoperability, and support for innovators.

 

We are aiming to propose a proportionate, iterative way to establish regulatory best practice in a fast-changing landscape.  Tools for trustworthy AI will be important to support implementation (such as AI assurance techniques and AI technical standards).  We have also strengthened the cross-cutting principles, outlined an AI sandbox to bring businesses and regulators together to get AI products to market while minimising risk - and proposed a set of central functions (including a proposal for a monitoring and evaluation framework to assess the impact of our approach and to support the ongoing development of AI regulation in the future).

 

International engagement is a key priority and we will continue working with international partners to support interoperability and coherence between different approaches.  We are keen to keep sharing experiences and lessons learned - and find further opportunities for collaboration.

 

Please do share with relevant colleagues and if anyone would like to have a further discussion on this approach, I would be happy to arrange.  We can also explain further at the upcoming Plenary meeting.

 

Shall we also aim to meet again before the Plenary begins?  

 

Lastly, apologies for the error in the last meeting readout - thanks to Hikaru for clarifying.

 

Best regards,

Rose

--

Rose Woolhouse

Head of International, Office for Artificial Intelligence

Department for Science, Innovation and Technology

t: 07871584109

 

 

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 08:41, IWAKI HIKARU <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear Rose,

 

Thanks for the summary.

After double-checking, we found that we do not sponsor the webinar on AI and Gender in April.

Just a small correction although it is our pleasure to be credited for a webinar we are not financing!

 

In addition, we heard that the Secretariat will have a meeting with NATO as well during their trip to Brussel.

 

Best wishes,

Hikaru

 

From: Rose Woolhouse <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 7:10 PM
To: Dunietz, Jesse <[email protected]>; Harris, Kenneth (Dept of Justice) <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; HIRANO TETSUSHI <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; Amory, Elizabeth R <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; IWAKI HIKARU <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; Latonero, Mark O. EOP/OSTP <[email protected]>; Amit Thapar <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Proposed Meeting in Advance of the CAI Plenary

 

Hi all,

 

Many thanks for meeting last week - and apologies for the delay in sending round a summary.

 

Welcome views on when would be most helpful to reconvene before the April Plenary, as aware we ran out of time to fully discuss strategies.

 

Process / updates:

  • CoE-wide decision to have all meetings with in-person interventions only (although CAI discussions will still be 'live-streamed)
  • For April meeting, CAI Chair to propose discussing Chapters 4&5 before Chapter 1 (given contingencies), but aim to cover all three chapters
  • Non-paper expected from Secretariat on Defence / National Security (for Plenary participants only)
  • Timelines remain challenging, especially as more contentious sections are coming up - if any extension is needed, there will need to be a CAI Secretariat request to the Committee of Ministers. Could look into intersessional meetings/sub-groups.
    • May need to consider new working parties in future on HUDERIA etc, will also depend on wider work plans and CoE budget
  • Council of Europe representatives planning trip to Brussels to engage Commission (and maybe US)
  • Plans to publish a brochure on AI activities in CoE, developed via the Japanese grant and translated into multiple languages (including Portuguese, given interest in getting Brazil involved in discussions) - and a CoE report on ChatGPT
  • Webinar on AI and Gender on 19 April - focused on preventing bias and promoting equality (sponsored by Japan)

For further discussion:

  • Timing strategy, especially given EU AI Act negotiations
  • Public / private scope (US to share further thinking)
  • Engaging more countries (Canada looking at Brazil, South Korea, Australia)
  • Collating feedback from stakeholders/SMEs (also depends on Convention scope)
  • Utilising this grouping to discuss wider international AI issues, such as EU AI Act implications

Other points to be aware:

 

Hope that's helpful - and feel free to add anything I've missed.

 

Many thanks,

Rose

--

Rose Woolhouse

Head of International, Office for Artificial Intelligence

Department for Science, Innovation and Technology

t: 07871584109

 

 

On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 at 17:34, Rose Woolhouse <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Many thanks for meeting earlier, to capture a few of the points.  

 

Sideline events:

  • Tues 31st (evening) - similar to last Plenary, meet in a restaurant (will arrange details on WhatsApp)
  • Weds 1st / Thurs 2nd (around 5.30pm): Catch-ups at the end of each session in the Agora
  • Weds 1st (evening): HoDs dinner (David arranging)
  • Thurs 2nd (lunch): lunch with CSOs/other stakeholders to hear their views on the Plenary discussions (TBC)
  • Thurs 2nd (evening): EU delegation reception 

 

On the text, a few issues flagged on the call were:

  • Preamble:
    • Use of word ''irresponsible''
    • References to other Conventions
    • Wording around "fill any legal gaps'' - and framing as ''supplement'' vs ''complement''
    • Inconsistency of use of ''fundamental freedoms'' wording throughout text
  • Article 28 - International co-operation
    • Could potentially expand to cover assisting non-Party States to act consistently with the Convention and encouraging them to join
  • Article 29 - Effective oversight
    • Questions over the nature of these authorities - and how risk assessment checks etc will be enforced
    • Closely linked to Art 24/25 - hard to fully determine before these provisions are discussed

 

On media reactions, here are the Euractiv and Politico articles - plus the letter / article from CAIDP (interested to know if you've come across any others).

 

Lastly, we discussed arriving one day in advance of the April Plenary - and extending the time slot for these calls.

 

Let me know if I've missed anything important - and sorry to miss everyone in Strasbourg next week, hope it goes well!

 

Best wishes,

Rose

--

Rose Woolhouse

Head of International, Office for Artificial Intelligence

Joint unit: DCMS and BEIS

DCMS - 4th Floor, 100 Parliament Street, London

BEIS - 6th Floor, 1 Victoria Street, London

t: 07871584109

@dcms  @beisgovuk 

 

On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 at 01:00, Dunietz, Jesse <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

As food for thought to discuss on Friday (and beyond), I’m attaching some thoughts from the United States on possible revisions to the chapters to be discussed next week.

 

Both documents include our tracked changes on top of the revised zero draft in the first column, and some comments in the final column on why we suggest these changes. The document for Ch. VII also includes a middle column containing some more significantly altered proposals, which we are not strongly attached to but feel may improve the text if there is openness in the room to more significant changes.

 

Please feel free to share within your governments, although we would ask that these not be shared further for now.

 

We look forward to discussing with you. It may also be worth making more systematic plans in future rounds to discuss detailed proposals like these from our respective delegations.

 

See you on Friday!

 

--Jesse

 

From: Dunietz, Jesse <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 11:07 AM
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Subject: Re: Proposed Meeting in Advance of the CAI Plenary (6 Jan)

 

This tracks with what we heard from Germany—that they were having trouble getting their government to distinguish between the purposes of the Convention and the AI Act.

 

--Jesse

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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 6:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Proposed Meeting in Advance of the CAI Plenary (6 Jan)

 

Hi Tetsushi,

 

Thanks for this; reviewed quickly and its unfortunate that CoE AI Treaty is being described as a pan-European, and not a global standard setting Treaty.

 

David Fairchild

First Secretary | Premier Secrétaire

Permanent Mission of Canada | Mission permanente du Canada

5, avenue de l'Ariana

1202 Geneva | Genève

Switzerland | Suisse

Cell : +41 (0)79 317 77 80

E-mail | Courriel: [email protected]

Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada

 

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From: HIRANO TETSUSHI <[email protected]>
Sent: January 25, 2023 12:18 PM
To: Rose Woolhouse <[email protected]>; Dunietz, Jesse <[email protected]>; Harris, Kenneth (Dept of Justice) <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Cedric Yehuda Sabbah <[email protected]>; Zanette, Michael -IOL [He/Him | Il] <[email protected]>; Fairchild, David -GENEV -GR <[email protected]>; 飯田 陽一 <[email protected]>; Amory, Elizabeth R <[email protected]>; Tecimer, Natalie (CRM) <[email protected]>; IWAKI HIKARU <[email protected]>; James Fardy <[email protected]>; Daniel Breger (Sensitive) <[email protected]>; Blake Bower <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Proposed Meeting in Advance of the CAI Plenary (6 Jan)

 

Dear all,

 

I hope you are all doing well.

I just would like to share the part of the address by the German foreign minister, Baerbock (The Greens), in the first part session of parliamentary assembly (PACE) of the CoE, where she mentioned the ongoing drafting process of the convention. https://pace.coe.int/en/verbatim/2023-01-24/am/en#theme-1475

 

with best wishes, Tetsushi

 

“Democracy and human rights are based on universal values, but they are also constant works in progress, because our societies evolve and new technologies obviously emerge. Take the digital revolution that is transforming how we all shop, meet our friends, and go on a date, if they used to go on a date. How entire industries work, or how scientists predict storms and droughts. The internet, social media and artificial intelligence have already made our lives so much better, but obviously they also bring new challenges and risks. We have seen that AI facial recognition can have racial bias, that it is used to target children with aggressive advertising, and that autocratic regimes are exploiting it to track down dissidents. That is why democratic governments, we, have to work together to protect human rights in the digital world. We cannot simply leave this to algorithms, to Tiktok or to Elon Musk.

This is a political task, this is a democratic task.

In the Council of Europe, we are working on a convention on the development, design, and application of AI systems. This convention can set a pan-European standard for human-centric and human-rights-based AI making sure, for example, that companies and governments are not spying on people by running their social media posts through AI analyses.

Together we can ensure that technology makes human rights stronger, not weaker. Because technologies are there for humans and not for industry or autocracies.

That is why the German government is committed to working with you all to see this new Convention adopted this year.”

 

From: Rose Woolhouse <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2023 1:33 PM
To: Dunietz, Jesse <[email protected]>; Harris, Kenneth (Dept of Justice) <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Cedric Yehuda Sabbah <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; 飯田 陽一 <[email protected]>; Amory, Elizabeth R <[email protected]>; Tecimer, Natalie (CRM) <[email protected]>; IWAKI HIKARU <[email protected]>; HIRANO TETSUSHI <[email protected]>; James Fardy <[email protected]>; Daniel Breger (Sensitive) <[email protected]>; Blake Bower <[email protected]>
Subject: Proposed Meeting in Advance of the CAI Plenary (6 Jan)

 

Dear all,

 

Happy New Year - hope you're having a good start to 2023!

 

As discussed with a few people, I have put in a call tomorrow at 07.30 (ET) / 12.30 (GMT) / 13.30 (EST) / 21.30 (Japan) to discuss the upcoming CAI Plenary meeting.  Blake can also give a short update on the CAI Bureau meeting that is happening today.

 

Hopefully this time works, otherwise happy to send a short readout and look forward to seeing those joining in Strasbourg.  Perhaps we can also organise a wider call with representatives w/c 16 January to discuss reflections from the Plenary and next steps.

 

Many thanks,

Rose

--

Rose Woolhouse

Head of International, Office for Artificial Intelligence

Joint unit: DCMS and BEIS

DCMS - 4th Floor, 100 Parliament Street, London

BEIS - 6th Floor, 1 Victoria Street, London

t: 07871584109

@dcms  @beisgovuk 

 

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